Welsh Triangle UFO Debunked

It looks like the Pembrokeshire Chamber of Commerce will have to find another way to bring in the tourists. Maybe they could open a cheese shop.

The famed “Welsh Triangle UFO” has been debunked by an ex-military man, according to Pembrokeshiretv.com.

James Carlson of Albequerque, N.M. claims in the Fortean Times that the sightings that took place back in the 1970s were actually just “asbestos suit and oxygen breathing apparatus used by the RAF for fire drills.”

Even UFO Expert Dr. David Clarke seems to think that’s a plausible explanation for the sightings, so considered this sighting mostly “debunked.”


  1. leigh
    March 21st, 2007 | 10:33 am

    well i think all the schoolchildren – and their teachers – who regularly saw craft in 76/77 in the area have something to say bout that! no ‘asbestos’ suits involved here – just strange metallic craft. 30 years on the childen – now adults – maintain the account they told then. If you’re going to do a report on the so called welsh traingle at least try to get your facts right before making sweeping statements like this!! Very lazy reporting by you in my view!

  2. Paul
    August 30th, 2007 | 4:50 pm


    I have to agree with the above post to a certain extent. Was it/is it still, a prerequisite in the RAF to be 7ft tall to take part in a fire drill? Not to mention of course the fact that those sightings happened close to water works and sewage works – no sign of fire around those…
    And, why would a fire drill be denied anyway?

    The RAF were asked numerous times about those sightings – they could offer no explanation. That seems a bit strange since it was their own personnel doing fire drill practice,apparantly,dont you think?

  3. Jennifer
    January 24th, 2008 | 7:17 pm

    My Mum and i saw a triangle UFO in our backyard during 1979 very far from Pembrokeshire. While she is originally from the UK, we lived in Connecticut U.S.A. at the time. I suppose if we had made a big stink about it, the US Naval base nearby might have made up something similar to what the RAF did.

  4. Mike
    January 26th, 2009 | 5:57 am

    How does this in any way explain the strange aircraft seen in the sky on numerous occasions?? Perhaps they were using high tech asbestos removal craft! What a pathetic explanation by some left brain fool

  5. February 2nd, 2009 | 11:53 pm

    James Carlson has no credibility whatsoever in any statement he makes regarding UFOs. If one needs any evidence of this, please review the exchange he and I had regarding UFO involvement in the shutdown of Echo Flight (10 Minuteman nuclear missiles) at Malmstrom AFB, in March 1967:


    Despite the fact that I interviewed one of the missile launch officers who was there at the time, retired U.S. Air Force Col. Walter Figel, who told me that a missile maintenance man and a missile security guard independently reported a “large round” UFO hovering directly over one of the missiles at the time the entire flight shut down, James Carlson continues to believe his father, Eric Carlson, who told him otherwise.

    Col. Figel told me that the elder Carlson, who was the other launch officer that day, was sitting “two feet away” from him when he took the calls about the UFO, which the two of them then discussed, and was also standing next to him during the debriefing back at base when he was ordered “not to talk about it.” Obviously, Eric Carlson would have been told the same thing.

    Clearly, Eric Carlson’s statements do not square with the direct testimony of Col. Figel. If Carlson is not having memory problems relating to the 1967 incident, he has chosen not to be forthright about it with his son and others.

    Moreover, if more testimony of UFO-involvement in the Echo Flight shutdown is actually needed, Robert Kaminski, the Boeing missile engineer who headed-up the investigation of the shutdown incident, is on record as saying that the Air Force told his team to cease investigating the incident and not to submit a report–an unheard-of request. Kaminski was later told that the reason no report was required was because the shutdown was considered by the Air Force to be “a UFO event.”

    All of this was brought to James Carlson’s attention and I even offered Col. Figel’s phone number to him so that he could hear the facts from someone who was there that day. Carlson refused to take the number, apparently afraid that Col. Figel will shatter the falsehood (or incorrect recollection) his father told him. Instead, James Carlson responded with a barrage of hysterical accusations about me, which I posted.

    In short, according to James Carlson, black is white, and he will spend dozens of pages telling you why that is so, if you are patient enough to read them.

    In view of his remarks about other UFO-related matters, his comments about the Welsh sightings should be taken with a grain of salt or, preferably, a salt mine.

    –Robert Hastings

  6. Alec
    September 15th, 2009 | 5:36 pm

    We had friends in Broadhaven,where Stack Rocks was clearly in view. Their son was one of the children who saw the UFO at the local primary school. On a visit, we had a meal at the Haven Fort Hotel and I spoke to the owner, Rosa Granville. She told me that there was a burn mark on the roof of her hotel following the sighting of two men in silver suits. She was demanding compensation because she blamed the military.
    I also spoke on the `phone to Randall Jones Pugh who wrote the best-selling book called “The Welsh Triangle”. I had heard that whilst preparing a follow-up he had suddenly destroyed all his notes and I asked him why he did that. He told me that he now believed the UFO phenomenon was “something we should not be delving into as it is akin to black magic” He also told me that he had suffered dreadful psychosomatic effects after writing his book.
    Our friend, whose son saw the school UFO told us that one night she was walking their dog and lights appeared in the sky overhead. The dog began to howl. The lights disappeared as though turned off by a switch and the dog was then quiet.
    I have long believed that all these sightings were down to military testing but tonight I was re-reading John A.Keel`s “The Mothman Prophecies” and much of what he says echoes the words of Randall Jones Pugh. I now believe this whole phenomenon is inter-dimensional in nature and virtually impossible for man to understand.

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